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richard.a
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Amen, Lucy. Beautifully put.
I must head off to bed now, at 72 and a bit I need my beauty sleep, and its 10.30pm here  See you guys in my morning. God bless you all.
Oooroo from downunder. That's an ozzie expression, a salutation
Richard in Adelaide
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Hope
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| TransformingWord wrote: | We
can not compare the gay movement to the civil rights movement. How can
you compare the sexually impaired with an oppressed race? Thats like
apples and oranges they do not compare. Homosexuals were not on a
plantation picking cotton for the straight world. Nor were homosexuals
boated from Africa to another world then treated like second class
citizens after they were freed.
You have the right to vote....regardless of your sexuality
You have the right to own a home
You have the right to build a business
You have the right to throw you sexuality in people's face
You have the right to even design or twist religion to support your sexuality.
You have the right to become one in flesh through abomination.
But if you knew you were right you would not have to fight for what you deem is right. I
hope gay marriages never get passed in this country because it would
not be a marriage but smack in God's face on his purpose for man and
woman as ONE. As for freedom of speech and bashing you turn on
gay television stations and watch homosexuals bash on straight people
calling us breeders (since when are we animals, it took straights to
make you). So would that not make you an offspring? |
God will not be mocked. |
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Hope
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| richard.a wrote: | Amen, Lucy. Beautifully put.
I must head off to bed now, at 72 and a bit I need my beauty sleep, and its 10.30pm here See you guys in my morning. God bless you all.
Oooroo from downunder. That's an ozzie expression, a salutation
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Lucy W. Roberts
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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God bless Richard a. and Hope.
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Rocket
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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richard.a
I commend you on your Christian spirited posts to cly, perhaps God has
lead this individual here to be presented with the truth and given
time, God the Holy Spirit will convict and lead to repentance?
We are all sinners saved by Grace, maybe in our lost condition
before we met Christ we were'nt "homosexuals", but we were sinners in
Gods eyes until we came under conviction, until we repented and
believed in the Good News. |
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clytemnestra
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| TransformingWord wrote: | | Hate
Crimes against God...your arms are too short. You better be glad he is
using men to minister to you because had it been the days of Abraham
you would not have the audacity to speak out against him going after
the strange flesh you lust for. And you are an IT. |
This is why some equate "Christian" with "hateful." God is aware of how
disrespectful you are of members of the LGBT community. Some day you'll
have a lot of explaining to do.
cly |
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TransformingWord
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: |
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hateful are you against God when you take 1/8th of his word and apply
it to your life. How hateful are you against God when the LGBT
community participates in orgies, transgenderism (men or women stuck in
the wrong bodies), subjecting innocent children to the ungodly models
of family? You tell me how hateful you are when you deny the truth of
God's word for a lie. Why would God make a man a man to feel like a
woman on the inside. Science says its a form of mental illness God
calls it a spirit.
YOUR RIGHT I HATE SIN |
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clytemnestra
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| richard.a wrote: | Lucy, thank you, much appreciated.
| clytemnestra wrote: | Lucy,
Jesus' love already includes members of the LGBT community. Nothing
in the gospels says otherwise. I see it in my life every day. Only your
prejudice leads you to think God's grace is limited in some way.
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If I may add a smidgeon to your reply to clytemnestra, I would like to
add a little about God's Grace which might be helpful to cly, and
others who may think the same way as them...
1. It is God's grace,
therefore He is entitled to put what conditions on it that He chooses,
whether or not any of us have any opinion on that fact. |
We admire parents who have unconditional love for their children. Are
you suggessting God's love is lesser than man's? I believe in a God
whose love passeth all understanding. Sorry you missed the places in
the gospels where Jesus points this out.
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TransformingWord
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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clytemnestra
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| richard.a wrote: | Disability most certainly is already covered, because I've seen some of the legislation.
Not being American I can't vouch for the other two although it
would be a fair guess to suggest that more general definitions already
exist under "equal opportunity" legislation in place. |
We DON'T have "equal opportunity" legislation on the federal level in
this country, although many states do. "God fearing" Republican
legislators have blocked it for the last 12 years.
The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) is being taken up by
Congress as we speak. It's likely to finally pass now that the
Democrats are the majority, but will our self-righteous President veto
this bill too, as he promises to veto the bill adding sexual
orientation and gender identity to hate crimes legislation?
"God fearing" Christians like Southern Baptists have always strongly
opposed equal rights legislation for blacks, women and gays. Where did
you get the idea that they did?
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clytemnestra
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| richard.a wrote: | | clytemnestra wrote: | | TransformingWord wrote: | Trust that every word has gone to her or it's [sic] heart. The mere fact that she post [sic] is probably the most Word she has received in her or its life.
The proof is in the pudding. Stop fighting and fall to your knees
[sic] he is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse you from ALL
unrighteousness. |
See what I'm talking about, Lucy? |
Ummm, with respect you have missed yet another point as I see it.
Gender, traditionally is he or she. Male or female. Or if you are an activist, she and he, female and male. blah blah blah... |
Claiming that gays have no gender is about as dumb as it gets.
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TransformingWord
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| IM TALKING ABOUT YOU "IT" |
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Yagudin
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| Rocket wrote: | | richard.a
I commend you on your Christian spirited posts to cly, perhaps God has
lead this individual here to be presented with the truth and given
time, God the Holy Spirit will convict and lead to repentance? |
Hi Rocket and welcome.
I don't want to dampen your positivity, but when you get the
opportunity to look around, you will see that the two longest threads
on this forum are about this subject. My concerns are
- that Christians can be distracted by never-ending discussions on
this subject when they can be edified or contribute to discussions on
other threads
- two main protagonists only appear to post on this one subject, which shows me that there is an agenda at work
| Quote: | | We
are all sinners saved by Grace, maybe in our lost condition before we
met Christ we were'nt "homosexuals", but we were sinners in Gods eyes
until we came under conviction, until we repented and believed in the
Good News. |
Amen. The key thing though is that we did repent. We didn't say to God that this is the way we are and there is nothing to repent of. |
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showlove
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: Re: ALIEN JUSTICE |
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| flygirljc wrote: | Today's Word
Saturday, May 5, 2007
Alien Justice
You shall not show favoritism in judgment; you shall adjudicate exactly
alike for the small and the great. You shall not be afraid of man,
because judgment belongs to God Deuteronomy 1:17
Judgment – In Hebrew thought, no principle of justice is more
important than this one. This verse removes judgment from the realm of
men. All judgment belongs to God. He sets the standard. He holds men
accountable to it. He administers it. Even though He may appoint human
agents and even though He may specify particular consequences, in the
end all justice rests on His shoulders.
Why does this matter to us? The answer is startling. In our
contemporary society, we no longer act as though God retains justice as
His own. We live in a Greek-based culture where the rule of law is the
final arbiter. The problem is that in the Greek system, law expresses
the will of the people. That means that the law is subject to change –
and we have clearly seen that occur over and over as we move further
away from the Commandments and their application. Under the Greek
system, the people exert pressure on legislators to alter the law to
fit their desires. Under the Hebrew system, men were not to cower to
such pressure because God owns judgment. When I succumb to the will of
men rather than uphold the law of God, I act as though God is no longer
Lord of all. I insult the Lord of the universe. He does not forget it.
Mishpat is translated almost 300 times in Scripture as “judgment.”
This might make us think that God exercises the court functions of
government, but that would be misleading. In ancient tribal cultures,
the figurehead of the tribe (the tribal chief) was not simply the final
arbiter. He had oversight of all aspects of governance. All branches of
civil authority were his. This is the context of shapat, the verbal
root of “judgment.” God is the chief, the elder of His people. His word
rules every aspect of governance. He speaks the law, administers the
law and executes justice under the law. He is the ultimate and final
patriarch. To violate His law is tantamount to committing treason.
Because we live under a Greek legal system, we can hardly imagine the
God would not be “democratic.” What a fatal mistake that is! God is
King, not President. His subjects do not have the right to ignore,
question or excuse His governance. Yet we routinely act as though God’s
revealed truth in the torah (the Law) no longer has relevance for us.
Who are we kidding? Are you going to stand before the One Who owns
justice and say, “But I didn’t think it mattered anymore?”
By Skip Moen: http://www.atgodstable.com |
My feelings exactly!
Great post!
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showlove
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clytemnestra - As long as we allow people to say hateful things
about gays, we need this legislation to deter others from turning this
hate into action. |
There we have it.
Since gays believe that preaching that references homosexaulity as sin
is hate speech then gays hope, and Cly's real intent is, to circumvent
further preaching and teaching that says anything other than that which
endorses homosexuality.
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