When Preaching Becomes a ‘Hate Crime’
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're excused...nobody cares about what you are posting anyway! Rolling Eyes Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucy W. Roberts wrote:
You're excused...nobody cares about what you are posting anyway! Rolling Eyes Cool

At least my posts are on the topic at hand. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard was right..."last word" again... Laughing ...and you are doing exactly what I asked...exposing your motives. As you said in posts way back...blah,blah,blah.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of an insect we used to encourage on our mosquito nets,a praying mantis, had a very clever tongue and usually the last word:slurp Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now Anthony, that's scary!

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Pastor just posted an interesting note on having the last word...

An apology is a good way to have the last word. Cool

(I'm not calling on anyone to apologize, just like the slant of it.)
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The truth is that Lucy had the "last word" on 13 of the last 20 threads prior to today's, while I have had none. But then you never let the facts get in the way of your mischaracterization of lesbians and gays, do you? Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest Newsweek has a cover story titled "Redefining Gender" which deals with members of the transgender community.

Rather than thoughtless name calling, it might be useful to gain a better understanding of people who are born with this natural variation in human sexuality. A snippet:

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Genesis set up the initial dichotomy: "Male and female he created them." And historically, the differences between men and women in this country were thought to be distinct...

Now, as transgender people become more visible and challenge the old boundaries, they've given voice to another debate—whether gender comes in just two flavors. "The old categories that everybody's either biologically male or female, that there are two distinct categories and there's no overlap, that's beginning to break down," says Michael Kimmel, a sociology professor at SUNY-Stony Brook...

When word leaked in February that Steve Stanton, the Largo, Fla., city manager for 14 years, was planning to transition to life as a woman, the community erupted. At a public meeting over whether Stanton should be fired, one of many critics, Ron Sanders, pastor of the Lighthouse Baptist Church, insisted that Jesus would "want him terminated." (Stanton did lose his job and this week will appear as Susan Stanton on Capitol Hill to lobby for antidiscrimination laws.) Equating gender change with homosexuality, Sanders says that "it's an abomination, which means that it's utterly disgusting."

With attitudes like Pastor Sanders', we understand why extending the laws to prevent discrimination in housing and employment based on sexual orientation and gender identity are necessary, and adding these categories to hate crime legislation would be helpful as well.

Information like that provided in this article is the best antidote to the ignorance that leads to prejudice directed at people who find themselves in the situations described.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clym is simply one of those bobbing heads in the back of a car. Always spewing a bunch of non sense and never presenting evidence. Somebody needs to get the mosquito swap.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less than a centruy ago, people considered left handedness to be evil, since it deviated from the right handed norm. They tried to change this, much to the detrement of all those involved.

Now they consider the natural occurance of gays and transgendered people to be evil, and suggest that those who express these normal variations in human sexuality need to "change" to fit in with the heterosexual norm.

When science explains that members of the LGBT community are a natural part of the world God created for us, as the article I mentioned above does, they call this non-sense and prefer to cling to their more primative views.

This will change for the better over time as the reasonableness of the many will overcome the prejudice of the few.

We already see that 68% of the population agrees that hate crimes legislation should be expanded to cover sexual orientation and gender identity, and even Jerry Falwell (may he rest in peace) agreed with the 80% + of the population that our LGBT citizens should not be discriminated against when it comes to housing or employment.

Those who are so opposed to equal rights for our LGBT citizens are losing the battle to those who believe in our country's principle of liberty and justice for all.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gay lies and propoganda,not welcome on this forum.Is that a hate crime?Please pass the handcuffs.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another portion of a study written by a dear friend of mine in his late 80s, from Seattle...

The Wise and Foolish
A parable illustrating the coming marriage of the Lamb.

It is given, so that the church might understand the working and will of the Lord for His church in the last days. They are virgins such as Paul mentioned in 2 Cor. 11:2

Members of the body of Christ who are waiting for the day of the marriage of Christ and His church. They are all in the same class, virgins, unmarried. Their number is not limited to ten, which in this case is a number of leadership and government. They are divided into two identical groups, yet there is a great difference between them. Mt. 25:1

In their similarities, they are all virgins. They have all heard the call and responded to the bridegroom and the marriage which is about to take place. They will be well aware of the times and the seasons.

Inasmuch as they are all named virgins, we know that they have responded to the preparations of holiness which are so vital for this marriage. They all had lamps prepared to lighten their way as they went forth to greet the bridegroom. Mt. 25:1

There, the similarity, which had been so evident, ceases.

They are subsequently divided into two groups and named as being wise or foolish. Mt. 25:5-6

Neither education nor intelligence defined into which group the individual was to be placed.

It was a good supply of oil. A preparation that would assure them of a continual burning of their lamps, regardless of how long it took the bridegroom to arrive.

Oil is a type of the anointing of the Spirit. The wise are a people who maintain, very carefully, the presence of the Spirit in their lives. A fresh experience in the Lord is of great necessity in order to be included among the wise.

Among the foolish are to be found those who have a knowledge of future events and anticipate the coming of the bridegroom. They have known and enjoyed the presence of the Holy Spirit in their lives.

They are now contented with the experiences of the past and feel no need of an ‘update’. In the vital hour of the greatest need for a reserve of oil they had run dry.

If the actual fulfillment numerically follows the parable, that would divide the virgins (members of the church) right down the middle.

In other words fifty percent would be classified as being in the unwise class, and needful of a new and fresh anointing of the Spirit of the Lord.

It is time for some self inspection and a renewing of the presence of the Lord within our Spiritual nature.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe people should be treated as people regardless of their sexuality.
However, I still know that it isnt God's plan for someone to be gay.
It is a spiritual condition and one He delivers from.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TransformingWord wrote:
I like what the Lord showed me this morning in his word...he told couples...WIVES SUBMIT TO YOUR HUSBANDS...NOT WIVES SUBMIT TO YOUR WIVES OR HUSBANDS SUBMIT TO YOUR HUSBANDS.

IN THE ORDER OF GOD THERE ARE HUSBANDS AND WIVES.

THE WORD PARTNER OR SIGNIFICANT OTHER CAME FROM THE FORNICATOR OR HOMOSEXUAL SUBTITUTING MAN AND WOMAN.

I like how the Lord showed something that the gay community used as a gay affirming scripture concerning David and Jonathan it says they become one in spirit.

But notice when God talks about a man and woman he says they become one in FLESH.

One in spirit is a covenant an agreement for brotherhood. Just as a church gathers in one spirit to Worship God. Lets stick to the facts and stop making up theories to support our sexual sins. Science calls it sexuality the bible calls it sin.


Now that's something to shout about! Amen! Good points TW.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and even Jerry Falwell (may he rest in peace)


Typical comment from those who are perishing. Evidence of the lack of biblical revelation. He's not resting. When a saint goes to be with the Lord, he doesn't rest. One doesn't get tired in heaven. Rolling Eyes

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