When Preaching Becomes a ‘Hate Crime’

[Macy]

Amen
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No weapon formed against you will prosper, no Kingdom raised against you will stand.

[Bill Ware]

[richard.a]

Bill,

Both you and clytemnestra seem hell-bent (maybe that's a good expression) on hijacking this thread that was not related to the need for humans to gratify themselves in one particular way in which God made the point that His rules work in the next life, and gave us the chance to accept them in this.

So you are merely demonstrating the concept of "there is no sin so there is no sinner" which is prevalent across society. The Christian equivalent is "hate the sin but love the sinner".

Maybe you also are not competent at reading previous posts? Why do you think discussion in this thread died? Because they were fed up to the back teeth with politically correct outlook here too.

Or perhaps you too are unable to separate the real thread from clytemnestra's hijacks too?
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[Lucy W. Roberts]

Well said, Richard.a
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If God is for us who can be against us?
Make the Lord your trust and He will do this...He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn; the justice of your cause like the noonday sun!
No weapon formed against us shall prosper.

[Bill Ware]

[Lucy W. Roberts]

Keep dreaming!
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If God is for us who can be against us?
Make the Lord your trust and He will do this...He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn; the justice of your cause like the noonday sun!
No weapon formed against us shall prosper.

[Bill Ware]

[richard.a]

/ignore Bill Ware
/ignore clytemnestra

Read what I wrote
Not what you think I wrote
When you get your act together and realise that Jesus' message was one that contained a requirement to follow his commands, having accepted his offer of salvation, you may then be able to contribute to those less fortunate than yourselves.

In the mean while it is you who are being hypocritical.

And you know, the world knows it. That is why they point fingers at us, and call us hypocrites.

The world knows God's standards.

His message is for all who would surrender their ego, and to stop the "doing it my way" antics you demand that God and His people must accept.

Let me spell it out slowly.

We are all sinners.

But those who recognise their sins and sinfulness, and do something about fixing them, as each is revealed through the heart, seeking the Holy Spirit's help, are those who God Almighty has forgiven.

Remember it is all or nothing.

You keep anything back, like the two who kept part of their assets (and died on the spot as a result), and you will not have eternal life in the kingdom.

Forgiveness, and salvation - which is His action demonstrating His forgiveness - is an all or nothing situation, which that parable points towards. Keep any sin back, thinking your righteousness in other areas will "get you though" is a failure on your part to understand the gospel.

Your righteousness, like mine, is as dirty rags compared with His. Too many are arrogant in their presumption that God is a "good mate" who you can persuade.

Wrong.

He is awesome. Majestic. All-powerful. All-knowing. You can't fool Him, and if you try, you are very unwise.

Those who do not make demands on their lifestyle having to be acceptable, and are prepared to hear Jesus calling them to repentance, are far too many in number to consider wasting time by throwing His priceless pearls before swine - which is not my judgement on you because (fortunately) it is not up to me to judge you. It is the revealed word of Jesus our Lord and Saviour, who you really should meet some time.

Bill and Cly, I call you to repentance, not using human authority to do so, but the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ. Calling someone to repentance is a biblical principle, performed by a messenger He sends.

I believe I am that messenger, because of the unexpected circumstances in which I discovered this unknown thread, in an unknown forum, at the right time. Submit to biblical authority brothers (I use that term biblically), when you place yourself under that authority, which you chose to do when you joined this thread.

Understand this, that a time most certainly shall occur - when you least expect it - when you shall discover that you are too late, because He shall destroy all those who wilfully stand against His will, and the opportunity window for forgiveness shall be closed, tight shut, like the instance of the foolish virgins invited to share the wedding feast with the Bridegroom.

There is a statement in one of the epistles which refers to "today, while it is still today" - read mark learn and inwardly digest that.

I wipe my sandals clean, Bill and cly, because my time is far too valuable to waste on those who demand to remain in their sins having heard "another gospel", and chosen to follow it.
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[Lucy W. Roberts]

Jesus said, "If the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day" (Matt. 11:23).



Keep dreamin' means you are dreamers inviting lewdness, like Jesus' brother writes about you in Jude...

You add them all up, God's spoken Word against homosexuality, the judgment of it at Sodom and Gomorrah, what Jesus says about their judgment remains for eternity, the Scripture above and Jude His brother and Peter His best friend, and it all equals SIN that will not be overlooked or go unjudged!

Repent and be saved from this lifestyle and you can truly be free! Jesus is the author and perfector of our faith, and if you come to Him and repent, He will not cast you out, but forgive and heal you! Amen.
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If God is for us who can be against us?
Make the Lord your trust and He will do this...He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn; the justice of your cause like the noonday sun!
No weapon formed against us shall prosper.

[clytemnestra]

I found this presentation to the House Crime Subcommittee by the ACLU:

[clytemnestra]

Oops!

I see I posted a response to richard.a's post above over here on another thread by mistake.

I'm sure glad the babies are easy to tell apart.

[Lucy W. Roberts]

[richard.a]

I would like to draw you readers' attention the current issue of barnabasaid, a bi-monthly magazine published by Barnabas Fund (Hope and aid for the persecuted Church). July/August 2007. I'm particularly taken with the supplement in the centre, and here is a link to http://www.barnabasfund.org/pdfdocs/magazine%20july-august.pdf

The actual article is called Shari`a and Muslims in the West - which I found very interesting as my childhood was spent in the Middle-East, and my family was a military one, with both father and uncle (both deceased) serving among Muslim regiments for many years, and naturally being fluent in Arabic and conversant with Islam in the 1930s through to 1960s.

You can find the supplement/article on pages 11-14 (p14 isn't in the pdf I gave the link to, above)

Did you know this:
A poll of British Muslims in 2004 found that 61% would prefer shari`a courts to the secular court system. In February 2006 40% said they would support a full shari`a implementation in predominately Muslim areas of Britain, and 6 months later 28% hoped that Britain would become a fundamentalist Islamic state under shari`a.

Further examples are given from Canada, Germany, Sweden and the UK. Mention is also made later to the Australian experience which has human rights, liberals, and non-liberals all concerned over the excessive way in which the Victorian legislation was manipulated by one group to prevent any verbalising of actual fact about them. In this case, Islam. The judge stated publicly that truth was irrelevant. Yes, you read right. Truth had no bearing on his decision!

Did you know this?

[anthony]

A sobering thought indeed,thanks for that mate.
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Remain a blessing dear ones .tony

[clytemnestra]